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Not Senility -- Dishonesty

txag007 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:17:02 GMT

What did Obama have to do this this? You don't know, do you? How could you? That would require some effort on your part and might not fit in with your goals. I will help you out. Obama wrote some provisions in this bill. Can you say provisions? If Obama wrote some 'provisions' for the bill he was speaking about, we can guess that he didn't mean to say 'my committee' and that he probably meant to say 'my provisions'.

Okay. Let's try that:

"Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my provisions, a bill to call for divestment from Iran, as a way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon,"

Does that make much sense?

What do you think all of this means? Obama is senile? Do you think he is too old to be President? That he is unaware of his surroundings? Do you think he doesn't even no what committees he serves on? Do you really honestly believe this to be swear on a stack of bazillion jillion bibles true?

I don't think it means Senator Obama is senile. Dishonest is more like it.

Let's see what else he said this week. He was asked whether his comments from the July 23, 2007 debate in which he said he would be willing to meet with the leaders of Iran, Venezuela, or North Korea without preconditions were still accurate.

His response:

"What I said in response was that I would, at my time and choosing, be willing to meet with any leader if I thought it would promote the national security interests of the United States... that continues to be my position, that if I think that I can get a deal that is going to advance our cause, then I would consider that opportunity. But what I also said was that there is a difference between meeting without preconditions and meeting without preparation."

http://www.allheadlinenews.com...

The problem for Mr. Obama is that isn't what he said in the debate. His actual statement in full:

QUESTION: In 1982, Anwar Sadat traveled to Israel, a trip that resulted in a peace agreement that has lasted ever since.
In the spirit of that type of bold leadership, would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?
COOPER: I should also point out that Stephen is in the crowd tonight.
Senator Obama?
OBAMA: I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them -- which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration -- is ridiculous.
(APPLAUSE)
Now, Ronald Reagan and Democratic presidents like JFK constantly spoke to Soviet Union at a time when Ronald Reagan called them an evil empire. And the reason is because they understood that we may not trust them and they may pose an extraordinary danger to this country, but we had the obligation to find areas where we can potentially move forward.
And I think that it is a disgrace that we have not spoken to them. We've been talking about Iraq -- one of the first things that I would do in terms of moving a diplomatic effort in the region forward is to send a signal that we need to talk to Iran and Syria because they're going to have responsibilities if Iraq collapses.
They have been acting irresponsibly up until this point. But if we tell them that we are not going to be a permanent occupying force, we are in a position to say that they are going to have to carry some weight, in terms of stabilizing the region.
COOPER: I just want to check in with Stephen if he believes he got an answer to his question.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI...

Do you see anything in there about a difference between meeting without preconditions and meeting without preparations? I don't either. That's dishonesty.

Poor, poor John

Libby Shaw — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:05:59 GMT

McCain and all Republicans. The Party's so called narrative, a TV politco punditry polite term for "spin," is becoming almost comical in its tragic failure to grasp certain hard realities.

Let me remind our Republican buddies about a few inconvenient facts.

The debacle called Iraq. Over four thousand killed American soldiers. For what purpose?

Tens of thousands of maimed soldiers. For what purpose?

Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of killed innocent Iraqis who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. For what purpose?

A trillion bucks squandered from our nation's piggy bank to pay for Iraq. For what purpose?

The soon-to-happen debacle called Afghanistan b/c the oil men in the White House care more about revenue sources and oil production than they do about the national security of our nation.

What about the trashing of our U.S. Constitution and the principles guiding the Geneva Convention where the Bush Administration's policy on torture is concerned?

Are you Republicans getting it yet?

Probably not.

So, what's up Txago07? Have you enlisted in the military to fight in your Party's war against terror in Iraq?

Something to show for our efforts

boadicea — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:28:25 GMT

Still can't believe minimum wage is that low, but it is about time we turned things around.

Thanks for the timely reminder!

We've done it before

Texas Blue Dot — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:12:24 GMT

but never over on this side of things.

There's about 5-6 of us that are regular contributors to C&J alone... and I met several others in Austin that go to other diaries/stories.

I sure hope you're correct.

jfrankparnell — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:11:24 GMT

Reid and Pelosi don't seem to be too worried right now, and certainly don't seem ashamed of their craven behavior.

Pelosi seems to only care that she's some kind of gender trailblazer in the Congress; it's not important that her leadership(?) is taking the country over the cliff.

And Reid, he seems unaware that he's running the show, unless that's a Manchurian cover to enable the GOP.

Regardless of their motivations, they're dead weight on the Progressive movement and need to be dumped, ASAP.

Sure, the grassroots raised lots of cash for Obama, and then look what happened after that.

jfrankparnell — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:02:06 GMT

Is "betrayal" too strong a term?

I think the growing grassroots movement is a trailing indicator of our broken system. If we're going to donate and raise money for a candidate, then there needs to be accountability. That means stopping the dinero flow when they misbehave.

Why 007 my old friend, where have you been!

jimmyjackearl — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:35:23 GMT

I have missed you!

What do you think all of this means? Obama is senile? Do you think he is too old to be President? That he is unaware of his surroundings? Do you think he doesn't even no what committees he serves on? Do you really honestly believe this to be swear on a stack of bazillion jillion bibles true?

This is a step in the right direction for you. Instead of telling lies you are actually just spreading half truths and hoping that the reader will interpret it in a way that you want. You are not all the way there yet, but half truth is better than no truth! I can see we are all having a positive effect on you.

So, let's take a closer look at Obama's mistake and see if we can figure it out together.

What is Obama's connection to the finance committee anyway and why would he even be talking about it? Let's break it down!

"Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee"

What did we pass 007? Do you know what he was talking about? That's right, you quoted it, here is what we passed:

"a bill to call for divestment from Iran,"

What did Obama have to do this this? You don't know, do you? How could you? That would require some effort on your part and might not fit in with your goals. I will help you out. Obama wrote some provisions in this bill. Can you say provisions? If Obama wrote some 'provisions' for the bill he was speaking about, we can guess that he didn't mean to say 'my committee' and that he probably meant to say 'my provisions'

See, it was not a sign of senility, old age, or any other brain anomaly that might effect his cognition.

He probably just tripped over the words.

Do you think you could make the same case over McCain's gaffes?

You do get bonus point for your diary title. I might just have to go out and get myself a yellow bracelet with WWBD written on it that I could snap on my wrist anytime I found myself not behaving with wit and grace.

i meant to add to the poll...

fake consultant — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:02:35 GMT

..."the office of the vice president".

oops.

Excellent choice for our first foray

boadicea — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:42:55 GMT

into the Houston Chronicle blogs.

Thanks again, JJE, for doing such a great job with this project.